HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

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HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

Postby hessank » Sun Jan 11, 2015 10:34 am

Greetings! First post.

I recently purchased a property in Florida with a 2 line deep well pump system. The HMSF pump was knackered so I replaced it with a new one from LW & Pump Co. I am getting only 30 psi and little flow so pump does not want to shut off. The setting is 30/50 for the pump and I'm using a new 20 gal tank set at 28psi.

So here is my issue. The pump comes with the suction line at the bottom (larger opening) and the pressurizing line just above it. No issue here. However, the 2 line well connection at this house has the larger opening at the top and the installation that I met required that the pipes crossed each other. How is this possible? Was it plumbed in reverse?

Please and thanks
Fred
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Re: HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

Postby dlamp67 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 9:29 am

Not certain why someone would plumb the old pump in reverse. If you are replacing a HMSF with a HMSF, there shouldn't have been an issue. When did you purchase the new pump?
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Re: HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

Postby hessank » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:16 am

Pump purchased last week. There is no issue with the pump.
The pump is set up per the manual with the suction (larger inlet) at the bottom.
They are all like that.

However, my well outlet flange has the larger opening at the top.
All my research indicates that the larger opening on wells are usually the suction and usually located at the bottom. Hence, some of my neighbor's pumps are connected directly to the well outlet as the holes match up. Mine doesn't. Is this why the previous owner used pvc pipes (see illustration)
See the problem?

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Re: HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

Postby dlamp67 » Mon Jan 12, 2015 10:35 am

That is more than likely the case. Sounds like the well casing adapter is reversed. You are correct in saying the larger connection is for the suction side and the smaller connection is the drive side.
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Re: HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

Postby hessank » Mon Jan 12, 2015 1:55 pm

This well was put in since 1998.
I am the only one in my neighborhood where the pump isn't mounted to the well flange.
I will remove my flange and take it to LW and see if they can match it.

Cheers!
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Re: HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

Postby hessank » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:26 pm

these are actual pics I took today. As you can see the pipework just isn't right and this pump CANNOT be attached directly to the well flange. I want to attach the pump to the well flange and eliminate the pipework.

So, is buying the proper flange part of the solution?
Please and thanks

Fred
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Re: HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

Postby dlamp67 » Wed Jan 14, 2015 10:57 am

The part number for a proper well casing adapter is J216-16A. This will be drive over suction and will allow you to bolt the pump direct to the adapter.
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Re: HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

Postby hessank » Thu Jan 15, 2015 6:22 pm

Just to close out this thread.
Found Joy today.

J216-16A installed with new gasket, pump installed to flange (no pvc pipes in between).
Normal pump pressures returned. Sprinkler system back i/s.

Thank you for all your help is seeing me through this.

Fred
Kissimmee, Florida
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Re: HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

Postby dlamp67 » Fri Jan 16, 2015 10:02 am

Your very welcome.
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Re: HMS-F installation to 2 line deep well

Postby ChemPumps » Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:41 am

Very helpful, thanks.
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